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Hellcrate
« on: October 30, 2017, 18:11:57 »

 http://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/sema/dodge-will-now-sell-you-a-hellcat-crate-engine/ar-AAuev27?li=AAggFp0&ocid=iehp

Dodge says it will also sell a Hellcat engine kit it calls the Hellcrate. This kit is designed for older cars built before 1976, allowing you to more easily add Hellcat power to your classic vehicle.
This kit is designed for older cars built before 1976, allowing you to more easily add Hellcat power to your classic vehicle.

The Hellcrate includes a powertrain control module, power distribution center, engine wiring harness, chassis harness, accelerator pedal, ground jumper, oxygen sensors, charge air temperature sensors, and fuel pump control module. The PCM comes with factory settings, giving the engine 707 hp and 650 lb-ft of torque, but since it's unlocked, tuners will be able to change that if they want. You can also order a Front End Accessory Drive kit that includes an alternator, power steering pump, belts, pulleys, and a few other things to make your engine swap go more smoothly.

The Hellcat engine will cost a whopping $19,530, and the kit will run you another $2,195. Thankfully, Dodge at least offers a three-year, unlimited-mileage warranty if you buy the two together. So if your build blows up after a few months, replacing it won't cost you another $21,725.
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2017, 12:42:28 »

That may sound like a lot of moolah, but if you've ever bought a crate engine and added all the peripheral items, you know this isn't bad at all for what you're getting!!
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 16:11:53 »

That may sound like a lot of moolah, but if you've ever bought a crate engine and added all the peripheral items, you know this isn't bad at all for what you're getting!!
Price isn't bad compared to a wrecked Hellcat and then all the hassle with parts fitting and working.
Now have to add a transmission, rear end, brake and steering upgrades to that coin.

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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2017, 10:36:22 »

Price isn't bad compared to a wrecked Hellcat and then all the hassle with parts fitting and working.
Now have to add a transmission, rear end, brake and steering upgrades to that coin.


True but if you have a 727 car with 8.75 rear, they can handle it if built properly.
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2017, 11:00:52 »

Its nice to think about.
You can build a lot of car for $22,000.

And if someone had $22,000, why not just pay that down on a real Hellcat?
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2017, 16:20:21 »

They cost three times that much and if you like the look of an older classic but want the power and today's technology, and maybe already own an old Mopar in need of new engine......
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2017, 20:43:41 »

Found one in a Toyota
https://youtu.be/gmy6gh4fvUc
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2017, 17:43:44 »

...But if you have a nice pre 76 car why would you damage its collect-ability by dumping its correct engine for a hellcat swap?
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2017, 19:13:44 »

...But if you have a nice pre 76 car why would you damage its collect-ability by dumping its correct engine for a hellcat swap?
A '76 Duster for example really is not considered collectable. And as I mentioned above, if you like the look of it, and want the technology of a newer engine and with the awesome power yet reasonable fuel mileage, drivability, smooth idle, easy starts regardless of weather, etc., it might make more sense than building an engine to match this power (that would destroy the collectability that may have been there anyhow by removing or heavily modifying the original engine). We are talking heavily modifying an engine versus dropping in a crate. Both destroy original factor of car.

But more than anything, we have to remember: "To each his own".
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 05:09:07 »

While the Hellcrate is cool..if I had the unlimited budget is still stick with the 392. I'd also figure out how to get the 8 speed in my car too. When I worked at the dealership is stuck the 392s in manual mode and they would scream. More than what Id want in my car..so a Hellcrate would be out of the picture for me.
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 08:19:00 »

I would go r3 race block w2 heads with a supercharger
Would still be cheaper then a hellcat engine with about the same power
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2017, 23:59:21 »

Hell a r5p7 would be cheaper then a hellcat engine
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2017, 14:43:49 »

That's My point.
You can build a Hell of a lot of car for $22,000

I have know people who can't handle 500 HP, Let alone 700 HP.
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2017, 23:16:00 »

for that, if I really splurge on a motor I can make an all new parts supercharged max wedge with a repro race crossram, tbi's and all the assorted bits and bobbles needed to set up the fuel system it would need. would make at least as much power and torque, and that's taking the block to a 572" bored/stroked out to the limits. and probably save a few grand in the process.
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Re: Hellcrate
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2017, 08:30:05 »

I would go r3 race block w2 heads with a supercharger
Would still be cheaper then a hellcat engine with about the same power

Race parts don't yield OEM reliability.  That Hell Kitty motor will rack up plenty more trouble free, leak free street miles than the exotic parts of yore. 
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