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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2019, 12:33:37 »

I'll probably just do that. We've been looking to move out of state for awhile. One it's expensive here. And two, smog laws  :p but I don't tell me wife that one. I'll just hold off on engine plans.


 The car needs suspension and other stuff. Just want to know where I was going with this car. If hemi then I'd look at more heavy duty suspension and brakes. If stock 318 then I'd go with just replacement parts.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2019, 13:03:47 »

A good upgraded suspension is always a good idea no matter what engine build you end up doing.

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2019, 13:12:54 »

What is the cut off year for smog there?
Like in Canada its 87 from what they tell me.
Leaving California would probably be the best decision you ever will make.
Record numbers of company's are leaving too and moving to less regulated states.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2019, 14:06:31 »

1975 for gas and 1990-something iirc for diesel in California. My wife and I are working on moving.


And yes I'm going to be putting the best suspension and stuff I can afford. But if I keep the 140 hp stock 318 then I probably wont be doing subframe connectors or some full Hotchkiss/QA1 build  :biggrin:
Some nice 5 leaf set up at the back and maybe poly bushings at the front.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2019, 16:49:06 »

California is pretty ruthless on smog.
i'd leave the car stock and use the money to move.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2019, 22:52:32 »

California is pretty ruthless on smog.
i'd leave the car stock and use the money to move.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2019, 12:23:07 »

Mopar Performance makes an all inclusive crate hemi for older cars with modules, sensors, accelerator cables, wire harness, and all those peripheral items that are usually the ones that drive you absolutely nuts. However, it's stated for 1975 and older, but I've wondered for quite sometime how adaptable this would be to an M or F body. While I love the 318/360, you have to admit it would be fun to have a smooth idling, easy starting in all weather, fuel efficient (relatively speaking), beast like this in an M or F. You know, just to go along with our other cars that retain the old school original engines.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2019, 12:48:32 »

The engine has to be 2014 or newer for that kit.
Coolness factor Yes! Most bang for the buck? No.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2019, 17:24:06 »

The engine has to be 2014 or newer for that kit.
Coolness factor Yes! Most bang for the buck? No.

No I was just thinking about his passing emissions with ease too. Many used pulled out of crashed cars :( 2014 and newer with good engines on ebay. I wouldn't want to go much older than a 2014 anyhow.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2019, 19:51:58 »

Thats a good find with 31,000 miles on it.
That engine and the kit is roughly $6,000
Plus mounts and adapters to fit into what ever.
If I had that deep of pockets it would be cool in one of my M Coupes.
In my mind 6,000 could build one hell of a 360 and a built 727 and bolt right in.
I would go all out and get a 392 485hp :evil:
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2019, 13:48:40 »

Mopar Performance makes an all inclusive crate hemi for older cars with modules, sensors, accelerator cables, wire harness, and all those peripheral items that are usually the ones that drive you absolutely nuts. However, it's stated for 1975 and older, but I've wondered for quite sometime how adaptable this would be to an M or F body. While I love the 318/360, you have to admit it would be fun to have a smooth idling, easy starting in all weather, fuel efficient (relatively speaking), beast like this in an M or F. You know, just to go along with our other cars that retain the old school original engines.


https://www.motortrend.com/news/mopar-launches-modern-v-8-crate-engine-kits-for-classic-muscle-cars/
1975 is totally arbitrary. The mounts didn't really change after that and there was another year of As, that was the redesign for late Bs, and while F/J/Ms have unique pedals, much of the hard suspension components aren't so different from late Bs.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2019, 07:30:39 »

1975 is specified most likely for emissions, not physical fitment, reasons.
The main reason is probably because of the catalytic converter requirements for 1976. My guess is the computer for this installation isn't designed for catalyst, but it would be something a stock late model Hemi computer would be.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2019, 08:23:31 »

That's why I was looking at engines out of wrecked cars. $7k for crate engine and harness plus the ecu's for 2015+ are locked and cost like $1500. I was finding low mileage 2005-2010 engines all day long for $2k with everything.


I know the 2011+ engines are better. My 2011 charger had VVT and cylinder deactivation. But, that's a lot more computer stuff to work around and more to go wrong.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2019, 12:25:38 »

Almost all the cars have cylinder deactivation. I know my 2005 300C and 2007 Magnum Hemi's did.
it's not impossible. It's just a bit expensive, even with a cheaper earlier engine. Butit would be nice when done.
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